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2019-05-06, 11:54 AM
The layout of live tournaments - brainstorm
Note: Normally at every game update time, all ongoing battles are removed. It will be made like this: only 24 hours passed since battle start date battles will get deleted. Thus, tournaments will not get affected
Official live tournaments will be saturday and sunday
There will be 4 tournaments based on different time zones
a) USA time zone - 1 AM game time , 20 PM local time (Saturday 1 AM, Sunday 1 AM)
b) Other time zone - 8 AM game time (Saturday 8 AM, Sunday 8 AM)
c) India time zone - 15 PM game time , 20 PM local time (Saturday 15 PM, Sunday 15 PM)
d) Germany time zone - 22 PM game time , 20 PM local time (Saturday 22 PM, Sunday 22 PM)
A player will be able to enter every tournaments in a day
A player can join with maximum 1 of his/her account. Using multi accounts are ban reason. Also from 1 IP only 1 account will be allowed to register tournament battles
A Pokemon will be available to use only 1 tournament each day. So if you use your Pokemon then trade it, the other player will not able to use it in that day's Tournament
Tournament registrations will start 1 hour before starting time and you will be able to register the tournament until 10 minute left
Once the last 10 minutes left, you wont be able to change your team or remove your registrations
When registering tournament, it will register your current bag team
Once the tournament starts, you wont be able to change or modify your team
After the tournament registration, if you change any of your registered Pokemon, it will be removed from your team
For example evolving or de-evolving your Pokemon, trading your Pokemon, releasing it into the wilderness
If no Pokemon lefts in your registered team due to above issues, you will be automatically counted as lost the battle
Tournament flow will be like below
Once the registrations end, every registered player will be randomly matched to someone else randomly
For example lets say 7 players registered to the tournament as Player 1 to Player 7
First round will be as below
Player 1 vs Player 3 : Winner Player 3
Player 2 vs Player 6 : Winner Player 2
Player 5 vs Player 4 : Winner Player 5
Player 7 - automatically counted as winner
Second round
Player 3 vs Player 5 : Winner Player 3
Player 2 vs Player 7 : Winner Player 7
Final round
Player 3 vs Player 7 : Winner Player 3
There will be also a match between Player 5 and Player 2 for to be ranked as 3
Player 5 vs Player 2 : Winner Player 2
Rank 1 : Player 3
Rank 2 : Player 7
Rank 3 : Player 2
So it will be always 1 match : winner moves up and loser get eliminated
For every match you win, you will get 1 tournament point (unless your enemy is automatically counted as a loser)
Once the tournament ends, number 3 ranked player will get extra 3 points, number 2 ranked player will get 5 extra points and number 1 will get extra 10 tournament points
Also every player will get money reward like this = 200,000 * Number of Collected Tournament points + 200,000 * (1.3 ^ Number of Collected Tournament points)
Player 1 gets 0 gold
Player 2 gets (1+3) * 200,000 + 1.3^4 * 200,000 = 800,000 + 2.85 * 200,000 = 800,000 + 570,000 = 1,370,000 gold
Player 3 gets (3+10) * 200,000 + 1.3^13 * 200,000 = 2,600,000 + 30.28 * 200,000 = 2,600,000 + 6,056,000 = 8,656,000 gold
Player 4 gets 0 gold
Player 5 gets 1 * 200,000 + 1.3^1 * 200,000 = 460,000 gold
Player 6 gets 0 gold
Player 7 gets (1+5) * 200,000 + 1.3^6 * 200,000 = 1,200,000 + 4.82 * 200,000 = 1,200,000 + 964,000 = 2,164,000 gold
Also the number 1 player will get 3 shiny eggs, number 2 player will get 3 legendary eggs, number 3 player will get 3 ultra rare eggs and the rest of the players will get 3 rare egg as rewards
The match starting times will be like below
Lets say tournamen starting date is 8 AM so the registrations will be closed at 7:50 AM
At the 8 AM you will be automatically entered live PvP tournament match
If you are in a NPC or wild Pokemon battle, those battles will be deleted and your live PvP match will start
However, if you are in any other match such as live PvP or ELO league battle etc, your tournament match will still start but it will be computer controlled
Even if your current match ends, you still won't be able to do live match. So make sure that you are not in any battle before the tournament matches starting time
The tournament battles will be limited to 30 minutes
If in 30 minutes the battle does not end, 1 of the player will be randomly chosen as a winner
So at 8:30 AM, all matches will be ended and the next round versues will be decided
There will be resting time between 8:30 AM and 8:40 AM
At 8:40 AM, round 2 will start
At 9:10 AM, the round 2 will be ended and at 9:20 AM, round 3 will start
At 9:50 AM, the round 3 will be ended and at 10:00 AM, round 4 will start
This will continue until the final round starts
At the same time of final round, there will be also match between number loser of the 1 before round of final round players to determine number 3 player
Restrictions
At saturday official tournaments there will be no class restriction
At sunday official tournaments, the allowed classes will be one of the below ones randomly chosen
{Common}, {Uncommon}, {Rare}, {Ultra Rare}, {Starter | Legendary}
{Shiny Common | Shiny Uncommon | Shiny Rare | Shiny Ultra Rare | Shiny Starter | Shiny Legendary}
{Mega Common | Mega Uncommon | Mega Rare | Mega Ultra Rare | Mega Starter}
{Mega Legendary}
{Shiny Mega Common | Shiny Mega Uncommon | Shiny Mega Rare | Shiny Mega Ultra Rare | Shiny Mega Starter}
{Shiny Mega Legendary}
So total 10 different groups
You will be able to use any of the allowed filter class Pokemon however only 1 Id of a Pokemon will be allowed
So you won't be able to use same Pokemon Id twice in your Pokemon team
Player composed tournaments
Any player will be able to start their own tournament
To compose your own tournament, you will be need to distribute at least 5 million gold reward yourself
The amount of gold reward you have determined for the tournament will be immediately deducted from your account as soon as you compose the tournament
Collecting gold from participating players are strictly against rules and will get you get banned. So you have to put your own gold yourself alone
The player determined money will be distributed like below
Number 1 player of the tournament gets 50%, number 2 gets 30% and number 3 gets 20% of the tournament reward gold
The player will be able to select composition any filter class Pokemon as a filter
For example players can make a tournament where only Common and Shiny Mega Rare class Pokemon allowed
Players will be able to ban any player from joining that tournament. The ban will be only for that specific tournament
Players will be able to set start date of the tournament (at least 1 hours later than the composition time and maximum 24 hours later than the composition time)
Registrations to the tournament will start immediately until 10 minutes lef to the start date
Players will be able to set maximum match duration time among 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 minutes (30 minutes in official tournaments)
Players will be able to set rest time between matches among 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 minutes (10 minutes in official tournaments)
Players will be able to set maximum tournament size among 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024 and unlimited players (default unlimited in official tournaments)
Players will be able to allow only account bound Pokemon to be used or not as an allowed team filter
Players will be able to set minimum or maximum allowed Pokemon level as an allowed team filter
If Pokemon Id or level (only if maximum level filter is applied) of registered Pokemon changes, those will be removed from your team like in official tournaments. If your team get 0 Pokemon, you will be automatically counted as defeated
The rest of the user composed tournaments flow is same as official tournaments
All tournament ranking results and gained rewards will be sent as a private message to the user
All tournaments battle results and rankings history will be kept
Note: Normally at every game update time, all ongoing battles are removed. It will be made like this: only 24 hours passed since battle start date battles will get deleted. Thus, tournaments will not get affected
Official live tournaments will be saturday and sunday
There will be 4 tournaments based on different time zones
a) USA time zone - 1 AM game time , 20 PM local time (Saturday 1 AM, Sunday 1 AM)
b) Other time zone - 8 AM game time (Saturday 8 AM, Sunday 8 AM)
c) India time zone - 15 PM game time , 20 PM local time (Saturday 15 PM, Sunday 15 PM)
d) Germany time zone - 22 PM game time , 20 PM local time (Saturday 22 PM, Sunday 22 PM)
A player will be able to enter every tournaments in a day
A player can join with maximum 1 of his/her account. Using multi accounts are ban reason. Also from 1 IP only 1 account will be allowed to register tournament battles
A Pokemon will be available to use only 1 tournament each day. So if you use your Pokemon then trade it, the other player will not able to use it in that day's Tournament
Tournament registrations will start 1 hour before starting time and you will be able to register the tournament until 10 minute left
Once the last 10 minutes left, you wont be able to change your team or remove your registrations
When registering tournament, it will register your current bag team
Once the tournament starts, you wont be able to change or modify your team
After the tournament registration, if you change any of your registered Pokemon, it will be removed from your team
For example evolving or de-evolving your Pokemon, trading your Pokemon, releasing it into the wilderness
If no Pokemon lefts in your registered team due to above issues, you will be automatically counted as lost the battle
Tournament flow will be like below
Once the registrations end, every registered player will be randomly matched to someone else randomly
For example lets say 7 players registered to the tournament as Player 1 to Player 7
First round will be as below
Player 1 vs Player 3 : Winner Player 3
Player 2 vs Player 6 : Winner Player 2
Player 5 vs Player 4 : Winner Player 5
Player 7 - automatically counted as winner
Second round
Player 3 vs Player 5 : Winner Player 3
Player 2 vs Player 7 : Winner Player 7
Final round
Player 3 vs Player 7 : Winner Player 3
There will be also a match between Player 5 and Player 2 for to be ranked as 3
Player 5 vs Player 2 : Winner Player 2
Rank 1 : Player 3
Rank 2 : Player 7
Rank 3 : Player 2
So it will be always 1 match : winner moves up and loser get eliminated
For every match you win, you will get 1 tournament point (unless your enemy is automatically counted as a loser)
Once the tournament ends, number 3 ranked player will get extra 3 points, number 2 ranked player will get 5 extra points and number 1 will get extra 10 tournament points
Also every player will get money reward like this = 200,000 * Number of Collected Tournament points + 200,000 * (1.3 ^ Number of Collected Tournament points)
Player 1 gets 0 gold
Player 2 gets (1+3) * 200,000 + 1.3^4 * 200,000 = 800,000 + 2.85 * 200,000 = 800,000 + 570,000 = 1,370,000 gold
Player 3 gets (3+10) * 200,000 + 1.3^13 * 200,000 = 2,600,000 + 30.28 * 200,000 = 2,600,000 + 6,056,000 = 8,656,000 gold
Player 4 gets 0 gold
Player 5 gets 1 * 200,000 + 1.3^1 * 200,000 = 460,000 gold
Player 6 gets 0 gold
Player 7 gets (1+5) * 200,000 + 1.3^6 * 200,000 = 1,200,000 + 4.82 * 200,000 = 1,200,000 + 964,000 = 2,164,000 gold
Also the number 1 player will get 3 shiny eggs, number 2 player will get 3 legendary eggs, number 3 player will get 3 ultra rare eggs and the rest of the players will get 3 rare egg as rewards
The match starting times will be like below
Lets say tournamen starting date is 8 AM so the registrations will be closed at 7:50 AM
At the 8 AM you will be automatically entered live PvP tournament match
If you are in a NPC or wild Pokemon battle, those battles will be deleted and your live PvP match will start
However, if you are in any other match such as live PvP or ELO league battle etc, your tournament match will still start but it will be computer controlled
Even if your current match ends, you still won't be able to do live match. So make sure that you are not in any battle before the tournament matches starting time
The tournament battles will be limited to 30 minutes
If in 30 minutes the battle does not end, 1 of the player will be randomly chosen as a winner
So at 8:30 AM, all matches will be ended and the next round versues will be decided
There will be resting time between 8:30 AM and 8:40 AM
At 8:40 AM, round 2 will start
At 9:10 AM, the round 2 will be ended and at 9:20 AM, round 3 will start
At 9:50 AM, the round 3 will be ended and at 10:00 AM, round 4 will start
This will continue until the final round starts
At the same time of final round, there will be also match between number loser of the 1 before round of final round players to determine number 3 player
Restrictions
At saturday official tournaments there will be no class restriction
At sunday official tournaments, the allowed classes will be one of the below ones randomly chosen
{Common}, {Uncommon}, {Rare}, {Ultra Rare}, {Starter | Legendary}
{Shiny Common | Shiny Uncommon | Shiny Rare | Shiny Ultra Rare | Shiny Starter | Shiny Legendary}
{Mega Common | Mega Uncommon | Mega Rare | Mega Ultra Rare | Mega Starter}
{Mega Legendary}
{Shiny Mega Common | Shiny Mega Uncommon | Shiny Mega Rare | Shiny Mega Ultra Rare | Shiny Mega Starter}
{Shiny Mega Legendary}
So total 10 different groups
You will be able to use any of the allowed filter class Pokemon however only 1 Id of a Pokemon will be allowed
So you won't be able to use same Pokemon Id twice in your Pokemon team
Player composed tournaments
Any player will be able to start their own tournament
To compose your own tournament, you will be need to distribute at least 5 million gold reward yourself
The amount of gold reward you have determined for the tournament will be immediately deducted from your account as soon as you compose the tournament
Collecting gold from participating players are strictly against rules and will get you get banned. So you have to put your own gold yourself alone
The player determined money will be distributed like below
Number 1 player of the tournament gets 50%, number 2 gets 30% and number 3 gets 20% of the tournament reward gold
The player will be able to select composition any filter class Pokemon as a filter
For example players can make a tournament where only Common and Shiny Mega Rare class Pokemon allowed
Players will be able to ban any player from joining that tournament. The ban will be only for that specific tournament
Players will be able to set start date of the tournament (at least 1 hours later than the composition time and maximum 24 hours later than the composition time)
Registrations to the tournament will start immediately until 10 minutes lef to the start date
Players will be able to set maximum match duration time among 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 minutes (30 minutes in official tournaments)
Players will be able to set rest time between matches among 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 minutes (10 minutes in official tournaments)
Players will be able to set maximum tournament size among 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024 and unlimited players (default unlimited in official tournaments)
Players will be able to allow only account bound Pokemon to be used or not as an allowed team filter
Players will be able to set minimum or maximum allowed Pokemon level as an allowed team filter
If Pokemon Id or level (only if maximum level filter is applied) of registered Pokemon changes, those will be removed from your team like in official tournaments. If your team get 0 Pokemon, you will be automatically counted as defeated
The rest of the user composed tournaments flow is same as official tournaments
All tournament ranking results and gained rewards will be sent as a private message to the user
All tournaments battle results and rankings history will be kept
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2019-05-06, 12:27 PM
Ok,CeF^^Ill put my gold in tourneies^^
2019-05-06, 12:54 PM
Where is the tourney page?
2019-05-06, 08:38 PM
let's say 128 players registered. we'll have 7 half hours with 7 10min breaks, so a total of 7*30 +70= 280 min== 4 hours and 40 minutes.
How do you expect people to wait these long? I don't believe that new players will be willing to wait this long...timing must be reduced, 10 minutes each round, and if everyone completes before maybe a PM about next round starting time with 5 minutes break between.
this sounds more reasonable to me
How do you expect people to wait these long? I don't believe that new players will be willing to wait this long...timing must be reduced, 10 minutes each round, and if everyone completes before maybe a PM about next round starting time with 5 minutes break between.
this sounds more reasonable to me
2019-05-06, 08:44 PM
avaid,will u answer my question?
2019-05-06, 09:52 PM
(2019-05-06, 12:54 PM)StopBanning Wrote: Where is the tourney page?
it is not ready yet
this is just discussion
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2019-05-06, 09:52 PM
(2019-05-06, 08:38 PM)aviad Wrote: let's say 128 players registered. we'll have 7 half hours with 7 10min breaks, so a total of 7*30 +70= 280 min== 4 hours and 40 minutes.
How do you expect people to wait these long? I don't believe that new players will be willing to wait this long...timing must be reduced, 10 minutes each round, and if everyone completes before maybe a PM about next round starting time with 5 minutes break between.
this sounds more reasonable to me
we can reduce match time to 20 minutes and breaks to 5 minutes if everyone is agree
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2019-05-06, 10:45 PM
CeFurkan,thank you for letting me know^^Let me know when the tourney page is ready^^
if battle remains below round 10, and if it is still not ended in 20 minutes, both participants will be counted as a loser
if battle continue until 20 minutes, one of the players will be randomly chosen as a winner
maximum battle time will be 20 minutes
next round of battle will start after 5 minutes of the current round all matches ending
if battle continue until 20 minutes, one of the players will be randomly chosen as a winner
maximum battle time will be 20 minutes
next round of battle will start after 5 minutes of the current round all matches ending
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2019-05-07, 03:38 PM
Seems a bit complicated Cef, I agree with Aviad. You should limit the max amount of entrants to say 32 per tournament and have a knock out tournament. And the reward structure should be changed to make it more balanced and easier to understand.
Every win - +1 additional tournament point
If you made it to last 32 - 1 tournament points + 1 common egg
Last 16 - 3 tournament points + 1 uncommon egg
Last 8 - 5 tournament points + 1 rare egg
Last 4 - 7 tournament points + 2 rare eggs
4th place - 10 tournament points + 3 rare eggs
3rd place - 12 tournament points + 1 ultra rare egg
2nd place - 15 tournament points + 1 legendary egg
1st place - 20 tournament points + 1 shiny egg
Every 5 tournament points can be traded to say 1 silver medal.
This way everyone participating will know what rewards they can get.
Every win - +1 additional tournament point
If you made it to last 32 - 1 tournament points + 1 common egg
Last 16 - 3 tournament points + 1 uncommon egg
Last 8 - 5 tournament points + 1 rare egg
Last 4 - 7 tournament points + 2 rare eggs
4th place - 10 tournament points + 3 rare eggs
3rd place - 12 tournament points + 1 ultra rare egg
2nd place - 15 tournament points + 1 legendary egg
1st place - 20 tournament points + 1 shiny egg
Every 5 tournament points can be traded to say 1 silver medal.
This way everyone participating will know what rewards they can get.
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(2019-05-07, 03:38 PM)zap10 Wrote: Seems a bit complicated Cef, I agree with Aviad. You should limit the max amount of entrants to say 32 per tournament and have a knock out tournament. And the reward structure should be changed to make it more balanced and easier to understand.
Every win - +1 additional tournament point
If you made it to last 32 - 1 tournament points + 1 common egg
Last 16 - 3 tournament points + 1 uncommon egg
Last 8 - 5 tournament points + 1 rare egg
Last 4 - 7 tournament points + 2 rare eggs
4th place - 10 tournament points + 3 rare eggs
3rd place - 12 tournament points + 1 ultra rare egg
2nd place - 15 tournament points + 1 legendary egg
1st place - 20 tournament points + 1 shiny egg
Every 5 tournament points can be traded to say 1 silver medal.
This way everyone participating will know what rewards they can get.
my rewards are better
32 players per tournament too much restriction
however we have decided this
if all battles in that round ends, after 5 minute immediately new round will begin
a private message will be sent to all players 5 minute before round begins
maximum allowed time for tournament matches will be 20 minutes
if enemy player misses total 10 moves, he will be automatically counted as a loser
if enemy player is not online (i will count last 10 minute as online), computer will control his account
once your account is computer controlled, you can not get it back
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2019-05-09, 10:49 AM
"if enemy player is not online (i will count last 10 minute as online), computer will control his account
once your account is computer controlled, you can not get it back"
what if he was online 10 mins ago, went offline 5 misn before tourny starts and is back before the match starts
will it be computer controlled or live pvp
once your account is computer controlled, you can not get it back"
what if he was online 10 mins ago, went offline 5 misn before tourny starts and is back before the match starts
will it be computer controlled or live pvp
2019-05-09, 10:53 AM
(2019-05-09, 10:49 AM)kunwarkharbanda Wrote: "if enemy player is not online (i will count last 10 minute as online), computer will control his account
once your account is computer controlled, you can not get it back"
what if he was online 10 mins ago, went offline 5 misn before tourny starts and is back before the match starts
will it be computer controlled or live pvp
even if he comes 30 seconds before match starts, he will be counted as online
but make sure you refresh any page or logout login back etc
otherwise would be computer controlled
however we may add this feature
take control of ongoing battle button in tournament page
i am thinking about that too
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2019-05-09, 10:58 AM
that would be excellent if u can have " take control of ongoing battle button""
its good if same button can also be for elo live matches or gw live matches as well
its good if same button can also be for elo live matches or gw live matches as well
2019-05-09, 11:39 AM
(2019-05-09, 10:58 AM)kunwarkharbanda Wrote: that would be excellent if u can have " take control of ongoing battle button""
its good if same button can also be for elo live matches or gw live matches as well
those matches are already live
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2019-05-09, 11:59 AM
isnt take control of ongoing battle means ,, if its cpu control and u come online few seconds alte u can switch from cpu controlled to live pvp ??
now if elo or gw starts as cpu control and player comes after 1 turn or 2 turn it stays cpu
now if elo or gw starts as cpu control and player comes after 1 turn or 2 turn it stays cpu
2019-05-09, 01:02 PM
(2019-05-09, 11:59 AM)kunwarkharbanda Wrote: isnt take control of ongoing battle means ,, if its cpu control and u come online few seconds alte u can switch from cpu controlled to live pvp ??
now if elo or gw starts as cpu control and player comes after 1 turn or 2 turn it stays cpu
yes it is that way
they start only as live if you have selected from your control panel and activated
but this gave me an idea
i can add take control button to ELO PvP match screen and Guild War screen
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2019-05-10, 04:05 PM
Well whatever, once you're done please make a detailed guide to all this and simplified enough so we'd all understand. All this seems to complicated. Also how are you going to structure the tournament? Knockout style? Group stage? Literally I've got no idea on whats going on.
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2019-05-16, 08:24 AM
(2019-05-10, 04:05 PM)zap10 Wrote: Well whatever, once you're done please make a detailed guide to all this and simplified enough so we'd all understand. All this seems to complicated. Also how are you going to structure the tournament? Knockout style? Group stage? Literally I've got no idea on whats going on.
it will be knockout style so you either win or lose and leave the tournament
also if you were not online at the beginning of match but later arrived, you will be able to take control of the match just like we have added for ELO PvP battles and Guild War battles
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2019-07-29, 08:22 PM
U abt done?I rlly 4got cuz u taken so long...
But hey,cant blame ya...
U got a LOT of work to do.
Let's go,Boss CeF^^Btw,PM'd^^
But hey,cant blame ya...
U got a LOT of work to do.
Let's go,Boss CeF^^Btw,PM'd^^
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