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Can stop newbies from being scammed ?
#1
First, sorry all because my english not good. If u a newbie, pls read one of this before read my post:
http://forum.pokemonpets.com/Thread-Lear...re-and-ivs
http://forum.pokemonpets.com/Thread-How-...ic-Pokemon
Some old fox take adventage newbies very excessive (even CM to do this)..How to avoid this ?
Here my SVP - System Value of Pkm
*Maybe all pkm separate 4 class: A-B-C-D (depend on elemental, ability, base stat, movepool). Nature and iv seperate 4 rate: I (perfect), II (good), III (average) and IV (bad)..We will discuss which legend pkm belong to class A-B-C..Ex: Mew2, Kyogre, Groudon, Kyurem-w, Yveltal..etc..is class A / Moltres, Mew, Terakion, Entei..etc..is class B..
*Some pkm not legendary, but strong as same as legend class B like Slaking, Tyrarnitar, Garchomp, Metagross, Salamence..Almost starter and some not legend but strong (or useful) same class C like Gengar, Excadrill, Aegislash, Carbink..etc..Some pkm useless like Unown..We will discuss and rate all pkm in this web game
*About C-iv (calculate iv-depend on base stat, nature, ability, movepool): 
  - Many pkm have c-iv Normal: 2 iv important x 1.5 + other iv x 1, iv useless not calculate and /6. If result equal or > 26, it's rate I (perfect), 20~25 rate II, 12~19 rate III. 
Ex: a Kyurem white modest nature, iv: sp.atk 25, spd 27, hp-def-sp.def 26, atk 17, c-iv = (25+27)x1.5 + (26+26+26) / 6 = 26, we can see this rate I (perfect). 
  - Some Wall pkm like Shuckle, Deoxys defence...very high def,sp.def but very low other stats, so have c-iv Wall: 3 iv important (hp + def + sp.def) x 2 + 1 iv can use (atk or sp.atk/10) / 6,  ex: a Shuckle sassy nt, all iv 24, c-iv = (24x3)x2 + (24/10) / 6 = 24.4, rate II. 
  - Some pkm have ability slow strong like Giratina-Origin, have c-iv Slow: 4 iv (atk or sp.atk + hp + def + sp.def) x 1.5 / 6 
  - Some pkm very special like Kyoswarm, with ability slow touch - attack master, good movepool, if nt adamant, it have c-iv slow. But if nt quiet, it have c-iv normal with 2 iv important is atk + sp.atk. Ex: a Kyoswarm nt quiet sp.atk 22, def-sp.def 26, atk-hp 7, spd 20, c-iv = (22+7)x1.5 + (26+26+7) / 6 = 17.1, rate III
*About calculate price:
  -Shiny legend class A:
  Nt bad: 50m x if [iv bad x1 / iv avr x1.2 / iv good x1.4 / iv perf x1.8] 
  Nt average: 55~70m x if [   x1  /  x1.2   /  x1.5  /   x2.5   ]
  Nt good:     80~85m x if [  x1  /   x1.5    /  x2.5~  /  x3.5~  ] 
  Nt perfect:    100m x if  [  x1  /   x2~  /   x3~  /    x5~   ]
Ex: a s-kyogre nt modest c-iv 25 (near perfect) is 100 x (4.5~4.7) = 450~470m
     a s-rayquaza nt jolly  c-iv 18  is 100 x (2.5~2.7) = 250~270m   
 -Legend class A: x iv same s-legend A
  Nt bad:       2.5m 
  Nt average: 4~5m
  Nt good:     7~8m
  Nt perfect:  10m
Ex: a zekrom nt jolly c-iv 15 is 10 x 2.3 = 23m
-Shiny useless: 20m
-Shiny pkm class B= 80% value class A, class C= 60%, class D= 30%. Ex: a s-entei (cl B) nt jolly c-iv 26 = 500 x 0.8 = 400m
-Reward box pkm can change nt, so = value perfect x 1.25 . Same way with starter and shiny only can catch in event (like mew2). Ex: a kyogre rb = 10 x 5.5 x 1.25 = 69m , a s-blaziken (shiny event class C) nt adamant c-iv 22 = 100 x 4.2 x 0.6 (60% class) x 1.25 (event) = 315m

This system not perfect now, but hope everyone make it better..
If hardy, 15days can earn 450m but in 15days u can find a perfect shiny legend ? not sure..
In future, hope Arthava, Malachi and Congthuan make a system league based on class pkm. Hope everyone discussion make better. Thanks so much!
#2
i don't get what's the basic purpose of making this thread.do u want others to follow these rates or what?
#3
Some prices u have r high ....... A rb s kyogre were sold for like 300m and  you make the price of s kyogre as u me tion 450m -.- overpriced
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#4
if u are planning to make these rates then u won't be able to get any deals because all the prices u made are way too much,i also though of this system by curry's thread that iv's should affect the value of a pokemon being sold to npc but concluded that this will make the money useless and there isn't any more nerfing needed.
#5
and i know y u made this thread,just to prove that a sassy shiny kyogre with just ok iv's is worth 200+mDodgy
#6
I hope know what way to unify a common price bracket..
#7
(2015-10-24, 09:57 PM)umarwaseem439 Wrote: and i know y u made this thread,just to prove that a sassy shiny kyogre with just ok iv's is worth 200+mDodgy

Lol, u think u smart ? U can try test calculate with my system..Sure with this system, my s-kyogre not 200m, ok ?
#8
(2015-10-24, 10:01 PM)General_StevN Wrote:
(2015-10-24, 09:57 PM)umarwaseem439 Wrote: and i know y u made this thread,just to prove that a sassy shiny kyogre with just ok iv's is worth 200+mDodgy

Lol, u think u smart ? U can try test calculate with my system..Sure with this system, my s-kyogre not 200m, ok ?
m not telling m smart,it's just that u r trying to be oversmart but can't.and it's not your game that others should calculate the prices with your system.the only thing i can say is,your pokemon your 
price.but u can't expect others to follow the rules made by u.
#9
and no shiny-kyogre is worth 470m -_-
#10
(2015-10-24, 09:54 PM)satra227 Wrote: Some prices u have r high ....... A rb s kyogre were sold for like 300m and  you make the price of s kyogre as u me tion 450m -.- overpriced
What percentage u can find a shiny with perfect nt and iv, ok ? I think with this system, pkm have perfect nt + iv is imagery, because nobody want sell it..
#11
and the title should more likely be (can't newbies scam "old foxes".)
#12
(2015-10-24, 10:05 PM)umarwaseem439 Wrote:
(2015-10-24, 10:01 PM)General_StevN Wrote:
(2015-10-24, 09:57 PM)umarwaseem439 Wrote: and i know y u made this thread,just to prove that a sassy shiny kyogre with just ok iv's is worth 200+mDodgy

Lol, u think u smart ? U can try test calculate with my system..Sure with this system, my s-kyogre not 200m, ok ?
m not telling m smart,it's just that u r trying to be oversmart but can't.and it's not your game that others should calculate the prices with your system.the only thing i can say is,your pokemon your 
price.but u can't expect others to follow the rules made by u.
Lol, this system maybe not perfect but i hope everyone make it better..And http://www.pokemonpets.com/SeeUserPokemo...?ID=578430 u can tell me price it (not mega) ?
#13
(2015-10-24, 10:17 PM)General_StevN Wrote:
(2015-10-24, 10:05 PM)umarwaseem439 Wrote:
(2015-10-24, 10:01 PM)General_StevN Wrote:
(2015-10-24, 09:57 PM)umarwaseem439 Wrote: and i know y u made this thread,just to prove that a sassy shiny kyogre with just ok iv's is worth 200+mDodgy

Lol, u think u smart ? U can try test calculate with my system..Sure with this system, my s-kyogre not 200m, ok ?
m not telling m smart,it's just that u r trying to be oversmart but can't.and it's not your game that others should calculate the prices with your system.the only thing i can say is,your pokemon your 
price.but u can't expect others to follow the rules made by u.
Lol, this system maybe not perfect but i hope everyone make it better..And http://www.pokemonpets.com/SeeUserPokemo...?ID=578430 u can tell me price it (not mega) ?

m not selling it,and will never sell it.
#14
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m not telling m smart,it's just that u r trying to be oversmart but can't.and it's not your game that others should calculate the prices with your system.the only thing i can say is,your pokemon your 

price.but u can't expect others to follow the rules made by u.
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Lol, this system maybe not perfect but i hope everyone make it better..And http://www.pokemonpets.com/SeeUserPokemo...?ID=578430 u can tell me price it (not mega) ?
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m not selling it,and will never sell it.
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I don't talk about sell or not..I said u can tell about it's price ? And why u think a s-kyogre nt modest all iv 25 not over 450m ?
#15
(2015-10-24, 10:27 PM)General_StevN Wrote: [quote pid='144374' dateline='1445725242']
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m not telling m smart,it's just that u r trying to be oversmart but can't.and it's not your game that others should calculate the prices with your system.the only thing i can say is,your pokemon your 

price.but u can't expect others to follow the rules made by u.
Lol, this system maybe not perfect but i hope everyone make it better..And http://www.pokemonpets.com/SeeUserPokemo...?ID=578430 u can tell me price it (not mega) ?
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m not selling it,and will never sell it.
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I don't talk about sell or not..I said u can tell about it's price ? And why u think a s-kyogre nt modest all iv 25 not over 450m ?
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i won't explain to u,because u will never listen to any explanations i give.So,sell ur pokemons at that rate,and let's see who buys your pokemons.
#16
stevn we will be doing another tourney soon
#17
(2015-10-24, 10:27 PM)General_StevN Wrote: [quote pid='144374' dateline='1445725242']
[quote pid='144373' dateline='1445725050']
[quote pid='144367' dateline='1445724302']

m not telling m smart,it's just that u r trying to be oversmart but can't.and it's not your game that others should calculate the prices with your system.the only thing i can say is,your pokemon your 

price.but u can't expect others to follow the rules made by u.
Lol, this system maybe not perfect but i hope everyone make it better..And http://www.pokemonpets.com/SeeUserPokemo...?ID=578430 u can tell me price it (not mega) ?
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m not selling it,and will never sell it.
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I don't talk about sell or not..I said u can tell about it's price ? And why u think a s-kyogre nt modest all iv 25 not over 450m ?
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Sorry to go in the middle of this conversation but a rb s kyogre were sold for 300m as i mention -.- your prices are too high in my opinion
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#18
Prices might be a bit off but you two should stop fighting over here >.>
#19
Apparently this is getting nowhere except inflicting discussions, this thread will be closed
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