[CeFurkan]

Waiting your comments about this list

I am planning to apply them at next update

If you object any of them please also state your reason ty


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2. Mega Beedrill: Attack Master, Physical Master, Bonus Damage

3. Mega Fearow: Bonus Damage, Flying Master, Physical Master

4. Mega Nidoqueen: Special Master, Ground Master, Sp.Attack Master

5. Mega Raticate: Physical Master, Normal Master, Evasion Master

6. Mega Pidgeot: Accuracy Master, Special Master, Speed Master

7. Mega Raichu: Electric Master, Sp.Attack Master, Speed Master

8. Mega Arbok: Attack Master, Physical Master, Perfect Body

9. Mega Wigglytuff: Camouflage, Bonus Damage, Physical Master

10. Mega Arbok Black: Attack Master, Perfect Body, Speed Master

11. Mega Sandslash: Evasion Master, Ground Master, Attack Master

12. Mega Nidoking: Attack Master, Ground Master, Physical Master

13. Mega Pinsir: Attack Master, Fighting Eager, Accuracy Master

14. Mega Snorlax: Expert Regenerator, Slow Strong, Physical Master

15. Mega Tauros: Physical Master, Attack Master, Normal Master

16. Mega Lapras: Expert Regenerator, Slow Tough, Water Master

17. Mega Clefable: Perfect Body, Expert Regenerator, Slow Tough

18. Mega Parasect(Grass/Poison): Water Immunity, Physical Master, Slow Tough

19. Mega Venomoth: Speed Master, Sp.Attack Master, Accuracy Master

20. Mega Arcanine: Physical Master, Fire Master, Evasion Master

21. Mega Tauros: Attack Master, Physical Master, Normal Master

22. Mega Vileplume: Expert Regenerator, Slow Tough, Special Master

23. Mega Farfetchd: Flying Master, Physical Master, Bonus Damage

24. Mega Dugtrio: Ground Master, Attack Master, Evasion Master

25. Mega Primeape: Fighting Eager, Fighting Master, Physical Master

26. Mega Dodrio: Evasion Master, Bonus Damage, Physical Master

27. Mega Hypno: Special Master, Sp.Defense Master, Psychic Master

28. Mega Poliwrath: Sp.Defense Master, Slow Tough, Expert Regenerator

29. Mega Golduck: Water Master, Speed Master, Physical Master

30. Mega Golem: Maximum Guard, Evasion Master, Defense Master

31. Mega Golduck Diamond: Speed Master, Water Master, Special Master

32. Mega Electrode: Speed Master, Evasion Master, Electric Master

33. Mega Gengar: Sp.Attack Master, Ground Immunity, Bonus Damage

34. Mega Slowbro: Shield Master, Slow Tough, Expert Regenerator

35. Mega Mr.Mime: Special Master, Sp. Defense Master, Speed Master

36. Mega Muk: Slow Tough, Physical Master, Poison Master

37. Mega Alakazam: Psychic Master, Sp.Attack Master, Accuracy Master

38. Mega Cloyster: Physical Master, Accuracy Master, Water Master

39. Mega Tentacruel: Maximum Guard, Expert Regenerator, Sp.Defense Master

40. Mega Victreebel: Flying Immunity, Special Master, Physical Master

41. Mega Exeggutor: Grass Master, Expert Regenerator, Sp.Attack Master

42. Mega Weezing: Ground Immunity, Radiation, Slow Tough

43. Mega Ditto: Perfect Body, Expert Regenerator, Maximum Guard

44. Mega Kangaskhan: Physical Master, Normal Master, Beyond Type

45. Mega Starmie: Water Master, Perfect Body, Special Master

46. Mega Gyarados: Physical Master, Fighting Eager, Accuracy Master

47. Mega Kingler: Physical Master, Defense Master, Accuracy Master

48. Mega Kingler Rocky: Physical Master, Attack Master, Accuracy Master

49. Mega Seaking: Electric Immunity, Speed Master, Attack Master

50. Mega Marowak: Slow Tough, Defense Master, Ground Master

51. Mega Marowak Fighting: Slow Strong, Defense Master, Physical Master

52. Mega Lickilicky: Slow Tough, Perfect Body, Normal Master

53. Mega Rapidash: Attack Master, Fire Master, Physical Master

54. Mega Jynx: Water Immunity, Sp.Defense Master, Special Master

55. Mega Aerodactyl: Physical Master, Accuracy Master, Bonus Damage

56. Mega Hitmonchan: Physical Master, Fighting Master, Sp.Def Master

57. Mega Hitmonlee: Physical Master, Speed Master, Accuracy Master

58. Mega Hitmontop: Physical Master, Sp.Defense Master, Move Expert

59. Mega Meganium: Perfect Body, Special Master, Shield Master

60. Mega Omastar: Accuracy Master, Expert Regenerator, Special Master
61. Stat Change: HP: 70 Atk: 35 Def: 175 Sp.Atk: 165 Sp.Def: 70 Speed: 80

62. Mega Kabutops: Accuracy Master, Fighting Eager, Physical Master
63. Stat Change: HP: 60 Atk: 170 Def: 150 Sp.Atk: 45 Sp.Def: 70 Speed: 100

64. Mega Typhlosion Frost: Bonus Damage, Special Master, Fire Master

65. Mega Typhlosion Lava: Bonus Damage. Special Master, Rock Master

66. Mega Typhlosion: Fire Master, Special Master, Physical Master

67. Mega Feraligtr: Attack Master, Water Master, Speed Master

68. Mega Feralitr Frozen(Needs to learn Icicle Crash): Bonus Damage, Ice Master, Physical Master

69. Mega Ariados(Bug/Dark): Physical Master, Attack Master, Bonus Damage

70. Stat Change: HP: 70 Atk: 120 Def: 80 Sp.Atk: 10 Sp.Def: 100 Speed: 100

71. Mega Crobat: Attack Master, Flying Master, Physical Master

72. Mega Dragonite Blade: Steel Master, Expert Regenerator, Perfect Body

73. Mega Lanturn: Expert Regenerator, Electric Immunity, Water Immunity
74. Stat Change: HP: 125 Atk: 28 Def: 108 Sp.Atk: 106 Sp.Def: 106 Speed: 87

75. Mega Bellossom: Expert Regenerator, Grass Master, Slow Tough

76. Mega Azumarill: Attack Master, Grass Immunity, Slow Tough
77. Stat Change: HP: 100 Atk: 90 Def: 110 Sp.Atk: 60 Sp.Def: 110 Speed: 50

78. Mega Sudowoodo: Defense Master, Rock Master, Slow Tough

79. Mega Politoed: Water Immunity, Expert Regenerator, Sp.Def Master

80. Mega Steelix: Expert Regenerator, Shield Master, Slow Tough

81. Mega Jumpluff: Grass Master, Speed Master, Physical Master

82. Mega Quagsire: Water Immunity, Slow Tough, Expert Regenerator

83. Mega Girafarig: Perfect Body, Grass Immunity, Special Master

84. Mega Scizor: Physical Master, Shield Master, Bonus Damage

85. Mega Blissey: Slow Tough, Expert Regenerator, Effect Expert

86. Mega Heracross: Physical Master, Fighting Eager, Bonus Damage

87. Mega Ursaring: Physical Master, Fighting Eager, Bonus Damage

88. Mega Ampharos: Slow Tough, Sp. Attack Master, Electric Master

89. Mega Furret: Normal Master, Physical Master, Speed Master

90. Mega Noctowl: Accuracy Master, Special Master, Bonus Damage

91. Mega Smeargle: Speed Master, Physical Master, Perfect Body

92. Mega Shuckle: Expert Regenerator, Perfect Body, Radiation

93. Mega Delibird: Physical Master, Speed Master, Ice Master

94. Mega Qwilfish: Slow Tough, Maximum Guard, Defense Master

95. Mega Noctowl-Clock: Accuracy Master, Special Master, Bonus Damage

96. Mega Xatu: Expert Regenerator, Perfect Body, Sp.Attack Master

97. Mega Corsola: Expert Regenerator, Perfect Body, Slow Tough

98. Mega Octillery: Slow Strong, Accuracy Master, Special Master

99. Mega Mantine: Water Immunity, Sp.Attack Master, Expert Regenerator

100. Mega Skarmory: Shield Master, Expert Regenerator, Radiation

101. Mega Dunsparce: Slow Tough, Expert Regenerator, Effect Expert
102. Stat change: HP: 100 Attack: 120 Defense: 95 Special Attack: 65 Special Defense: 90 Speed: 45

103. Mega Houndoom: Speed Master, Special Master, Dark Master

104. Mega Kingra: Physical Master, Speed Master, Bonus Damage

105. Mega Ludicolo: Expert Regenerator, Sp. Attack Master, Slow Tough

106. Mega Walrein: Slow Tough, Expert Regenerator, Maximum Guard

107. Mega Stantler: Grass Immunity, Physical Master, Evasion Master

108. Mega Sceptile: Bonus Damage, Special Master, Speed Master

109. Mega Pelipper: Accuracy Master, Expert Regenerator, Observer

110. Mega Linoone: Attack Master, Speed Master, Normal Master

111. Mega Beautifly: Sp.Attack Master, Speed Master, Special Master

112. Mega Dustox: Special Master, Sp.Attack Master, Speed Master

113. Mega Grumpig: Perfect Body, Slow Tough, Special Master

114. Mega Shiftry: Bonus Damage, Speed Master, Camouflage

115. Mega Exploud: Beyond Type, Special Master, Normal Master

116. Mega Delcatty: Perfect Body, Normal Master, Attack Master

117. Mega Plusle and Minun: Speed Master, Sp.Attack Master, Electric Master

118. Mega Swellow: Beyond Type, Attack Master, Flying Master

119. Mega Masquerain(Bug/Water): Special Master, Sp.Attack Master, Speed Master
120. Stat Change: HP: 70 Atk: 40 Def: 62 Sp.Atk: 130 Sp.Def: 132 Speed: 80

121. Mega Breloom:
122. Stat Change: HP: 60 Atk: 210 Def: 100 Sp Atk: 40 Sp: Def: 60 Speed: 90

123. Mega Shedinja: Perfect Body, Physical Master, Bonus Damage

124. Mega Absol: Physical Master, Dark Master, Speed Master

125. Mega Absol Antler: Bonus Damage, Attack Master, Dark Master

126. Mega Absol Skull: Bonus Damage, Attack Master, Perfect Body

127. Mega Relicanth: Defense Master, Attack Master, Rock Master

128. Mega Mightyena: Attack Master, Fighting Eager, Speed Master

129. Mega Sableye: Slow Tough, Radiation, Defense Master

130. Mega Volbeat: Attack Master, Physical Master, Bug Master

131. Mega Illumise: Special Attack Master, Special Master, Bug Master

132. Mega Sharpedo: Accelerator, Bonus Damage, Physical Master

133. Mega Spinda: Perfect Body, Evasion Master, Physical Master

134. Mega Crawdaunt: Bonus Damage, Accuracy Master, Attack Master

135. Mega Zangoose: Attack Master, Poison Immunity, Physical Master

136. Mega Castform: Accuracy Master, Radiation, Special Master

137. Mega Altaria: Expert Regenerator, Special Master, Perfect Body

138. Mega Cacturne: Evasion Master, Camouflage, Attack Master
139. Stat change: HP: 70 Atk: 165 Def: 60 Sp.Atk: 125 Sp.Def: 60 Speed: 95

140. Mega Seviper: Special Master, Speed Master, Physical Master
141. Stat change: HP: 73 Atk: 140 Def: 60 Sp.Atk: 140 Sp.Def: 60 Speed: 85

142. Mega Armaldo: Attack Master, Slow Tough, Rock Immunity

143. Mega Solrock: Attack Master, Ground Immunity, Physical Master
144. Stat Change: HP: 70 Attack: 145 Defense: 125 Sp. Atk: 25 Sp. Defense: 75 Speed: 100

145. Mega Salamence: Dragon Master, Fighting Eager, Attack Master

146. Mega Salamence Blue: Attack Master, Fighting Eager, Bonus Damage

147. Mega Banette: Perfect Body, Physical Master, Slow Strong

148. Mega Claydol: Ground Immunity, Evasion Master, Camouflage

149. Mega Glalie: Special Master, Physical Master, Expert Regenerator

150. Mega Aggron: Shield Master, Slow Tough, Observer

151. Mega Huntail: Perfect Body, Expert Regenerator, Attack Master
152. Stat Change: HP: 55 Atk: 154 Def: 155 Sp.Atk: 64 Sp.Def: 75 Speed: 82

153. Mega Metagross: Physical Master, Shield Master, Accuracy Master

154. Mega Luxray: Physical Master, Evasion Master, Electric Master

155. Mega Lopunny: Bonus Damage, Beyond Type, Physical Master

156. Mega Luvdisc: Perfect Body, Water Master, Maximum Guard

157. Mega Floatzel: Perfect Body, Attack Master, Speed Master

158. Mega Floatzel Metal: Bonus Damage, Attack Master, Speed Master

159. Mega Empoleon: Shield Master, Slow Tough, Special Master

160. Mega Honchkrow Physical Master, Fighting Eager, Dark Master
161. Stat Change: HP: 100 Atk: 175 Def: 52 Sp.Atk: 135 Sp.Def: 52 Speed: 91

162. Mega Drapion: Bonus Damage, Attack Master, Physical Master
163. Stat Change: HP: 100 Atk: 140 Def: 140 Sp.Atk: 60 Sp.Def: 75 Speed: 115

164. Mega Carnivine: Fire Immunity, Physical Master, Accuracy Master
165. Stat Change: HP: 74 Atk: 135 Def: 92 Sp.Atk: 90 Sp.Def: 87 Speed: 86

166. Mega Ambipom: Attack Master, Move Expert, Bonus Damage

167. Mega Abomasnow: Slow Tough, Slow Strong, Camouflage

168. Mega Weavile: Bonus Damage, Physical Master, Dark Master

169. Mega Torterra: Camouflage, Slow Strong, Observer

170. Mega Lucario: Fighting Eager, Speed Master, Bonus Damage

171. Mega Chatot: Evasion Master, Speed Master, Special Master

172. Mega Togekiss: Special Master, Shield Master, Effect Expert

173. Mega Rhyperior: Physical Master, Slow Tough, Defense Master

174. Mega Rhyperior Drill: Physical Master, Slow Strong, Defense Master

175. Mega Gliscor: Evasion Master, Attack Master, Ground Master

176. Mega Staraptor: Speed Master, Attack Master, Bonus Damage

177. Mega PorigonZ: Special Master, Bonus Damage, Special Attack Master

178. Mega Magnezone: Ground Immunity, Special Master, Expert Regenerator
179. Stat Change: HP: 70 Atk: 50 Def: 155 Sp.Atk: 180 Sp.Def: 100 Speed: 80

180. Mega Tangrowth: Expert Regenerator, Defense Master, Grass Master

181. Mega Roserade: Special Attack Master, Special Master, Poison Master

182. Mega Bastiodon: Shield Master, Slow Tough, Defense Master

183. Mega Lumineon: Perfect Body, Attack Master, Water Master

184. Mega Magmortar: Perfect Body, Fire Master, Slow Strong

185. Mega Mamoswine: Ice Immunity, Evasion Master, Physical Master

186. Mega Electrivire: Accuracy Master, Electric Master, Physical Master

187. Mega Yanmega(Bug/Dragon) (Add dragon pulse to level up moves): Accelerator, Special Master, Sp.Attack Master

188. Mega Froslass: Evasion Master, Accuracy Master, Special Master

189. Mega Bisharp: Physical Master, Attack Master, Dark Master
190. Stat Change: HP: 65 Atk: 205 Def: 140 Sp.Atk: 40 Sp.Def: 70 Speed: 70

191. Mega Samurott: Attack Master, Physical Master, Water Master
192. Stat Change: HP: 95 Atk: 140 Def: 105 Sp.Atk: 108 Sp.Def: 90 Speed: 90

193. Mega Watchog: Attack Master, Speed Master, Physical Master

194. Mega Musharna: Shield Master, Perfect Body, Slow Tough

195. Mega Seismitoad: Water Immunity, Slow Tough, Water Master

196. Mega Golurk: Ground Master, Physical Master, Attack Master
197. Stat Change: Hp 89 Attack: 174 Defense: 130 Sp.Attack: 25 Sp.Defense: 80 Speed: 85

198. Mega Unfezant Male: Physical Master, Speed Master, Attack Master

199. Mega Unfezant Female: Physical Master, Speed Master, Bonus Damage

200. Mega Audino: Slow Tough, Expert Regenerator, Special Master

201. Mega Liepard: Physical Master, Speed Master, Dark Master

202. Mega Leavanny (Access to Aqua Tail): Speed Master, Physical Master, Camouflage

203. Mega Scolipede: Physical Master, Accelerator, Attack Master
204. Stat Change: HP: 60 Atk: 170 Def: 189 Sp.Atk: 55 Sp.Def: 69 Speed: 142

205. Mega Crustle: Slow Tough, Physical Master, Perfect Body

206. Mega Scrafty: Fighting Eager, Camouflage, Attack Master
207. Stat Change: HP: 65 Atk: 140 Def: 135 Sp.Atk: 25 Sp.Def: 135 Speed: 88

208. Mega Accelgor: Special Master, Sp. Attack Master, Accuracy Master

209. Mega Swanna: Special Master, Water Master, Accuracy Master

210. Mega Whimsicott: Speed Master, Radiation, Special Master

211. Mega Escavalier: Slow Tough, Physical Master, Shield Master

212. Mega Beartic: Evasion Master, Slow Strong, Ice Master

213. Mega Durant: Physical Master, Bonus Damage, Speed Master

214. Mega Darmanitan: Attack Master, Physical Master, Fire Master

215. Mega Mandibuzz: Defense Master, Sp.Defense Master, Camouflage

216. Mega Lilligant: Grass Master, Speed Master, Special Master

217. Mega Mienshao: Physical Master, Fighting Master, Fighting Eager

218. Mega Eelektross: Ground Immunity, Electric Master, Special Master

219. Mega Krookodile: Speed Master, Fighting Eager, Physical Master

220. Mega Zoroark: Camouflage, Dark Master, Physical Master

221. Mega Vanilluxe: Expert Regenerator, Ice Master, Sp. Defense Master

222. Mega Chandelure: Special Master, Sp.Attack Master, Bonus Damage

223. Mega Jellicent M: Water Immunity, Sp.Def Master, Expert Regenerator

224. Mega Jellicent F: Water Immunity, Sp.Def Master, Expert Regenerator

225. Mega Cinccino: Speed Master, Normal Master, Physical Master

226. Mega Druddigon: Bonus Damage, Physical Master, Attack Master
227. Stat Change: HP: 77 Atk: 160 Def: 105 Sp.Atk: 20 Sp.Def: 120 Speed: 103

228. Mega Escadrill: Speed Master, Bonus Damage, Physical Master
229. Stat Change: HP: 110 Atk: 235 Def: 60 Sp.Atk: 20 Sp.Def: 86 Speed: 118

230. Mega Gothitelle: Psychic Master, Sp.Defense Master, Sp.Attack Master

231. Mega Volcarona: Speed Master, Sp.Attack Master, Bonus Damage

232. Mega Avalugg: Expert Regenerator, Defense Master, Slow Tough

233. Mega Chestnaught: Grass Master, Physical Master, Camouflage

234. Mega Chestnaught Shield: Grass Master, Slow Tough, Camouflage

235. Mega Delphox: Fire Master, SpAttack Master, Psychic Master

236. Mega Hawlucha: Fighting Eager, Speed Master, Physical Master

237. Mega Greninja: Special Master, Water Master, Water Mania

238. Mega Pyroar Male: Sp.Attack Master, Special Master, Defense Master
239. Stat Change: HP: 86 Atk: 68 Def: 112 Sp.Atk: 129 Sp.Def: 106 Speed: 106

240. Mega Pyroar Female: Sp.Attack Master, Special Master, Speed Master

241. Mega Slurpuff: Slow Tough, Radiation, Poison Immunity
242. Stat Change: HP: 65 Atk: 100 Def: 116 Sp.Atk: 105 Sp.Def: 95 Speed: 72

243. Mega Tyrantrum: Physical Master, Rock Master, Attack Master

244. Mega Barbaracle: Attack Master, Defense Master, Physical Master
245. Stat Change: HP: 72 Atk: 155 Def: 165 Sp.Atk: 34 Sp.Def: 86 Speed: 88

246. Mega Talonflame: Attack Master, Speed Master, Physical Master

247. Mega Aegislash (Attack): Slow Strong, Observer, Bonus Damage

248. Mega Aegislash (Defense): Slow Tough, Shield Master, Defense Master

249. Mega Pangoro: Fairy Immunity, Beyond Type, Physical Master

250. Mega Dragalge: Special Master, Sp.Attack Master, Slow Tough

251. Mega Goodra: Perfect Body, Sp.Defense Master, Dragon Master

252. Mega Florges: sp. Attack Master, Perfect Body, Sp. Defense Master

253. Mega Trevenant: Physical Master, Perfect Body, Expert Regenerator

254. Mega Gourgeist: Perfect Body, Physical Master, Expert Regenerator

255. Mega Noivern: Special Master, Dragon Master, Speed Master

256. Mega Gigalith: Slow Tough, Physical Master, Ground Immunity
257. Stats: Hp: 85 Attack: 205 Defense: 150 Sp.Attack: 30 Sp.Def: 120 Speed: 25
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259. Scolisev: Accelerator, Bonus Damage, Attack Master

260. Tyserninja: Speed Master, Special Master, Bonus Damage

261. Flygan: Attack Master, Accelerator, Physical Master
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263. Mega Shaymin: Evasion Mater, Special Master, Speed Master

264. Hoopa-Unbound: Bonus Damage, Physical Master, Special Master

265. Mega Hoopa: Special Master, Bonus Damage, Special Attack Master

266. Mega Articuno: Special Attack Master, Perfect Body, Evasion Master

267. Mega Zapdos: Special Master, EVasion Master, Electric Master

268. Mega Moltres: Special Master, Fire Master, Evasion Master

269. Mega Ho-Oh: Sp.Defense Master, Attack Master, Expert Regenerator

270. Mega Celebi: Perfect Body, Special Master, Radiation

271. Mega Regirock: Physical Master, Shield Master, Defense Master

272. Mega Registeel: Slow Tough, Shield Master, Physical Master

273. Mega Regice: Special Master, Sp.Defense Master, Shield Master

274. Mega Kyogre: Water Master, Sp.Attack Master, Spd.Defense Master

275. Mega Groundon: Ground Master, Attack Master, Defense Master

276. Mega Rayquaza: Attack Master, Bonus Damage, Dragon Master

277. Mega Darkrai: Speed Master, Special Master, Dark Master

278. Mega Victini: Fire Master, Bonus Damage, Physical Master

279. Mega Zekrom: Bonus Damage, Special Master, Evasion Master

280. Mega Reshiram: Bonus Damage, Special Master, Fire Master

281. Mega Zekrom: Physical Master, Evasion Master, Dragon Master

282. Mega Kyurem: Special Master, Speed Master, Dragon Master

283. Mega Keldeo: Sp.Attack Master, Fighting Master, Water Master

284. Mega Genesect: Speed Master, Attack Master, Special Master

285. Mega Kyurem-White: Speed Master, Dragon Master, Special Master

286. Mega Kyurem-Black: Speed Master, Dragon Master, Physical Master

287. Mega Genesect Fossil: Speed Master, Attack Master, Special Master

288. Mega Yveltal: Speed Master, Bonus Damage, Physical Master

289. Mega Zygarde: Bonus Damage, Camouflage, Attack Master

[kunwarkharbanda]

are these ability changes for only mega versions or will be applied to shiny  and normal pokemons ?

[kunwarkharbanda]

overall i feel the changes are good so thanx a lot for planning it

only thing which i feel can change as thread is to improve pokemon usefulness
not saying its bad just for making even better we can do it since those pokemon arent being used much in pve or pvp now 

maximum accuracy  to maximum guard
sleep immunity / confusion immunity / paralysis immunity  to perfect body 
critical immunity not a usable ability overall

[alltron]

looks like mega-venomoth got buffed while mega-butterfree got nerfed.. they looked just fine as they were venotmoth had more speed but a little less damage while butterfree had less speed and more damage. if the changes were to be go trough i don't see why i would use butterfree over venomoth anymore ^^ 

for the rest awesome finnaly no more competition on the 100% male/female pokes

[StormSeeker]

Removing Competition ability is really good. the other changes are quite nice as well. the greninja though looks kinda bipolar. and the froslass, given its speed, effect expert seems lame.

[SomebodyUnown]

froslass, given its speed, effect expert seems lame.

I agree that froslass should keep current abilities. Not because only of its speed, but also because of its other base stats and movepool. Froslass is a sweeper, and will not be using moves like leer or rest, keeping radiation is better than changing to effect expert.

[SomebodyUnown]

Mega Greninja: Special Master, Physical Master, Assassin

The change from water mania to physical master not going to improve greninja. I can see that physical master would make its huge physical movepool more usable. But even after physical master is applied, its physical moves are far inferior to the special moves it can use. Just keep water mania, its more useful, especially considering its bulk, it'll die in one hit. Use survival armor, and its hyper surf is much stronger.

[Blau]

No anger on mega conkeldurr.
Reason why : 
Anger is useless, conkel does not boast the survivability it needs to make any use of it.
Conkel is one of very few slaking stoneage alternatives as a wallbreaker, making it even less useful just nullifies just about any reason to get any other wallbreaker except stoneage...
Besides.. ruin it and i demand another reward Since i Picked conkeldurr without any kind of hint that there are Plans to make it useless on the very next update. 
Es
I pretty much don't see any improvements to most of those Pokemon tbh, but Stating why on everything would take me Too long...

[ch17175]

Don't change rhyperiors abilities at all. they're fine. don't touch them. Same with tyranitar, kingler, and anything containing anger, or assassin

[jecklin]

i have question:
bug immunity, dragon immunity, flying immunity,etc.. i see many abilities in abilities list but no one pokemon have abilities like it.. why?

decrease mega breloom attack only make breloom become not usefull sweeper why not decrease def than atk

[Magic..]

some of the abilities r messed up

[TakutoChan]

I was going to make a full list of my thoughts on each change, but then I realized I really didn't care enough about the majority of the pokes. regardless of what abilities they get 90% of those here will not be seen in pvp or used that much in general

So I'll just talk about the changes I found more interesting

changes for the pokes that don't make sense or make them weaker

1. On the mega pyroars am I seriously spotting 4 abilities on the proposed new abilities for them? And while we are at it can we have something to differentiate between the 2 mega's other than just art? for example maybe have a speed related ability on pyroar-f and a bulk related ability on pyroar. Or maybe slightly different stats, or a couple different moves in their movepools? something ya know :3
   
2. Greninja would be better off keeping it's water mania ability over physical master because even with physical master picking a physical build for greninja over a special one is really bad, the difference between mega-greninja's spatt and att is too great for that little bit to help
   

Changes for pokes that make them stronger/more fit

1. Gigalith gets a mega? cool definite plus (he didn't have one before) and no useless abilities in sight :3 (and I already have a decent gigalith so I'm personally happy on this one)
   
2. Mega Trevenant gets quite a boost from this change although whether it'll be enough for him to leave the storage and join the team is doubtful
   

[amod09]

whatever 
But guys have to say cef have done great work a lot of determination and study 
great work cef

[Pygmy Puff]

mega magnezone's gonna improve a lot soon because of that 4x weakness will be no more.
well, the physical master on mega greninja seems meh. why not evasion master since he's a ninja? :3

[CeFurkan]

guys if you have objections reply and explain the reason

that is the way to fix this list. 

here we are trying to improve the game quality and this list is prepared by an expert player

[Chibi Celebi]

Lots of info!

[Blau]

guys if you have objections reply and explain the reason

that is the way to fix this list. 

here we are trying to improve the game quality and this list is prepared by an expert player

Quite frankly.. if it was an expert it would not need to get fixed in the amount it's necessary.
So i will explain ability selection rather than each and every pokemon to save myself time..

Venomous and/or Assassin ... 

Those abis have less than NO use on sweepers.
Both are abilities by chance. 
So a pokemon whose use is to effectively kill a pokemon in 1Hit or die in 1Hit does not profitate from an ability which only is effective if you can hit repeteadly.

Anger ...
Anger aswell only is usefull... well... if a pokemon got survivability
Thus a regenerator ability is necessary at the very least.
Add that status effects decrease stats and you find, that the damage boost is useless to begin with, so certainly a worse selection than competition.

Berserk....
Is a draw back to start with 
Only useful on pokemon with low offensive stats and/or hone claws, huge survivability.
Otherwise each battle results in a gamble,  which by no means is an icrease in usefulness..

Effect Expert ...
Only useful if you have beast moves like Yawn, Healing Moves etc. 
AND a fair amount of defenses etc.
Tanks and Walls profitate from it, sweepers... do not.
Unless you want something like darkrai / venomoth / butterfree to go hard with sleep.



P.s.: then there's not a Single "thick fat" copy paste pokemon on here, which certainly needs it more than those on the list. (Example : Hariyama, Snorlax, Grumpig etc.)


I may or may not bother to add other ability explanation to show how horrible that list is... don't really feel to anymore.

[Daeva13]

guys if you have objections reply and explain the reason

that is the way to fix this list. 

here we are trying to improve the game quality and this list is prepared by an expert player

Quite frankly.. if it was an expert it would not need to get fixed in the amount it's necessary.
So i will explain ability selection rather than each and every pokemon to save myself time..

Venomous and/or Assassin ... 

Those abis have less than NO use on sweepers.
Both are abilities by chance. 
So a pokemon whose use is to effectively kill a pokemon in 1Hit or die in 1Hit does not profitate from an ability which only is effective if you can hit repeteadly.

Anger ...
Anger aswell only is usefull... well... if a pokemon got survivability
Thus a regenerator ability is necessary at the very least.
Add that status effects decrease stats and you find, that the damage boost is useless to begin with, so certainly a worse selection than competition.

Berserk....
Is a draw back to start with 
Only useful on pokemon with low offensive stats and/or hone claws, huge survivability.
Otherwise each battle results in a gamble,  which by no means is an icrease in usefulness..

Effect Expert ...
Only useful if you have beast moves like Yawn, Healing Moves etc. 
AND a fair amount of defenses etc.
Tanks and Walls profitate from it, sweepers... do not.
Unless you want something like darkrai / venomoth / butterfree to go hard with sleep.



P.s.: then there's not a Single "thick fat" copy paste pokemon on here, which certainly needs it more than those on the list. (Example : Hariyama, Snorlax, Grumpig etc.)


I may or may not bother to add other ability explanation to show how horrible that list is... don't really feel to anymore.

I totally agree with Blau on this, once i have it finished i will add my comment on the various things i feel as wrong. But other those things already listed by Blau, I want to say right now that all those stats point taken from the best stat to give them to speed is a waste as speed will stay low anyway. Make a pokemon weaker just to make it sligthly faster is pointless

[kunwarkharbanda]

crictical immunity alsso a total waste on pokemons imo  and like blau said but there are more which needs to be changed

[CeFurkan]

the list updated

by the way we can also tune abilities if necessary to make them more useful 

you can also comment about ability tuning

[Daeva13]

the list updated

by the way we can also tune abilities if necessary to make them more useful 

you can also comment about ability tuning

what do you mean by tuning? And as this is a really huge list of changing, I think we need some more time to talk about it, as the next update could be too soon before we decided something

[Radryl]

the list updated

by the way we can also tune abilities if necessary to make them more useful 

you can also comment about ability tuning

what do you mean by tuning? And as this is a really huge list of changing, I think we need some more time to talk about it, as the next update could be too soon before we decided something

He means improving abilities, like giving them a boost to make them useful. For example, increasing the damage bonus you get from Water/Fire/Etc Mania from 30% to 40.

Or Effect Expert work like Prankster, giving priority to any kind of non-damaging move.

[Daeva13]

the list updated

by the way we can also tune abilities if necessary to make them more useful 

you can also comment about ability tuning

what do you mean by tuning? And as this is a really huge list of changing, I think we need some more time to talk about it, as the next update could be too soon before we decided something

He means improving abilities, like giving them a boost to make them useful. For example, increasing the damage bonus you get from Water/Fire/Etc Mania from 30% to 40.

Or Effect Expert work like Prankster, giving priority to any kind of non-damaging move.

that would be cool

[kunwarkharbanda]

typing error :p
"Mega Weezing: Groung Immunity, Radiation, Venomous"

[Blau]

The abilities aren't the Problem. 
An increase of chance to poison or increased dmg buff doesn't fix the messed up allocation.
Example (note: just an example for explanation's sake!) : increasing venomous chance to poison by hit to .. let's go overkill and say 50%.
Would still be useless on Sweeper since they are meant to kill on 1hit, or die the round after.


We're talking about increasing usefulness, means alot of third class pokemon are listed, yet i see third class abilities.
The worse the Pokemon, the better the ability needs to be. 
Third class Stuff can be Assigned to top tier Pokemon to even the difference.
(And buffing abis won't help with that since it'a reliability which matters.
Slow strong : guaranteed and constant 40% stat increase > any other damage buffing ability, since it's on bulky mons, and speed ain't a drawback on those.)

[Daeva13]

The abilities aren't the Problem. 
An increase of chance to poison or increased dmg buff doesn't fix the messed up allocation.
Example (note: just an example for explanation's sake!) : increasing venomous chance to poison by hit to .. let's go overkill and say 50%.
Would still be useless on Sweeper since they are meant to kill on 1hit, or die the round after.

the real problem is actually the stats changing

[CeFurkan]

list updated again

please state your reason, what should they get

[Daeva13]

list updated again

please state your reason, what should they get

how many other update there will be?

[kunwarkharbanda]

error/ mistake Mega Nidoqueen: Special Master, Ground Master, Special Master\\

2 times same ability 

like i said before assassin, critic master , critical immunity are not useful abilies along with few other so they should be totally removed even from the abilities list 

[Daeva13]

error/ mistake Mega Nidoqueen: Special Master, Ground Master, Special Master\\

2 times same ability 

like i said before assassin, critic master , critical immunity are not useful abilies along with few other so they should be totally removed even from the abilities list 

I confirm this